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Hydrokinetic Working Group

Website: http://energy-alaska.wikidot.com/hydrokinetic
Members: 13
Latest Activity: Apr 11, 2011

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Don Eller

Drag Turbine Gearing 3 Replies

Hi all, Just a quick look at the gearing for a drag turbine.  Gear ratio is at 80:1.Continue

Started by Don Eller. Last reply by Jack Schmid May 13, 2010.

Alan Fetters

Igiugig RISEC on Kvichak River 1 Reply

We will be studying the fesability and permitting opputunities for a small RISEC project on the Kvichak River in Igiugig Alaska. Concurrently we will be renewing the existing diesel powerhouse. If…Continue

Started by Alan Fetters. Last reply by Gwen Holdmann Feb 10, 2010.

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Don Eller Comment by Don Eller on August 23, 2010 at 4:54pm
As of today we have produced 300kwh out of the Tanana paddle wheel. Unit has stayed functional inspite of all the drift, there were 4 major log jams which required hours to clean out. Any device which goes in to the river must be able to deal with the drift, the devices cannot be delicate. The paddle wheel has not sustained any damage outside of minor cosmetics on the paddles. We have seen the wheel process a large 60 foot tree without any problems, although next year we definately put in a drift boom upriver.
Don Eller Comment by Don Eller on July 19, 2010 at 5:42pm
We are back producing again and have a nice steady streach of producing a little over 1 kw continiously Had to upsize a jack shaft from 1 1/4" to 2", there is a lot of torque and the 1 1/4" shaft could not handle it. The wheel has processed drift flawlessly. We are going to let it set and produce for the rest of the season without any changes.
Jack Schmid Comment by Jack Schmid on July 1, 2010 at 11:11am
Congratulations to Dave and the folks in Ruby for getting the turbine deployed again. This is good news.
Martin Leonard III Comment by Martin Leonard III on June 30, 2010 at 11:33am
Just got a message from Dave at the Yukon River Inter-Tribal Watershed Council.

The 5kW turbine at Ruby has been successfully redeployed. A big WIN in the fact that the permanent anchors and anchor rodes that were successfully placed in the thalweg in 09 were able to be retrieved and utilized again.

Hopefully we will hear more about production and the fish studies as the season progresses.

Way to go!
Jack Schmid Comment by Jack Schmid on June 14, 2010 at 11:42am
Congratulations Don,
Getting the wheel running and feeding power to the grid is a milestone. Thanks for the picture, it is a great graphic example of the forces at play in your system. You are doing some good work and you are getting some valuable information.

Jack
Don Eller Comment by Don Eller on June 14, 2010 at 10:37am
Don Eller Comment by Don Eller on June 14, 2010 at 10:32am
Hi all,

We have actually produced energy and put it on the grid. Currently the wheel is in for a little work, stiffening and reinforcing. It is very hard to comprehend the forces at play until you see them deform an 1 1/4" axel or a piece of 2 X 2" square steel tubing like it was not even there.
I bent the axel by loading the wheel too quickly, just like letting the clutch out to fast in a car.
Another surprise has been the harmonics and cycles that occur which dissipate energy. Just by fastening the main anchor line in the middle and taking out the spring like action, another 200 watts was gained.
We had a flawless 13 hour run where we generated 13 KWH and put it on the grid. Definitely not what was hoped for on the output but substantially better than any other system’s output with the slower current.
With the stiffening up of the drive structure and tweaking of the system we should end up around 1.5kw-2kw continuous output on to the grid.
Don
Jack Schmid Comment by Jack Schmid on January 6, 2010 at 1:40pm
Don,
You are working on what seems to be the hardest part of putting together a small scale hydrokinetic device. Effectively coupling a generator to a high torque, low rpm device is a challenge. Hopefully the Ginlong generator will be suitable.

I also agree with your efficiency philosophy in your earlier post that it is economic efficiency that we are after. If you put together a system that is in the ballpark of economic efficiency, you can then explore the possibility of optimizing for higher efficiencies.

I look forward to your next step
Don Eller Comment by Don Eller on January 4, 2010 at 1:29pm
Unit has not produced electricity as of this point in time. Unit has been in the river two seasons refining operation and design. Had a very hard time finding gearing, a generator and control system I could afford, this has been the hold up. Finally found www.ginlong.com which has low speed PMGs and control systems. Am staged to be producing this summer. Based on actual torque and rotational velocity measurements 7.5kw is very conservative but proof is in actual production. One other modification is required to the device, a wind shroud to minimize drag from wind when there is a down river wind. The wind shroud should actually increase the overall production of the unit for both up and down river winds.
Gwen Holdmann Comment by Gwen Holdmann on January 4, 2010 at 12:42pm
Don,

What I like about the arrangement is the simplicity. Have you actually been able to generate 7-12kW with your unit?

Gwen
 

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Don Eller Alan Fetters Jack Schmid Gwen Holdmann Ginny Fay Jennifer Richcreek Rob Roys Martin Leonard III Walter H Rose Lisa Humphreys Ian Graham Ben Haight Markus Mager
 
 
 

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